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Post Conference
July 12, 2004
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Conference 1—Jayne coaching Jodie |
Formative Discussion
Jayne Germany has joined the chat.
Jodie Ingram has joined the chat.
Jodie Ingram: morning
Jayne Germany: Hi Jodie
Sandra Hines has joined the chat.
Jayne Germany: Hi Sandra
Sandra Hines: Morning Jayne
Jodie Ingram: what materials do we need to get started????
Jayne Germany: I am looking at interactive guide one--lotsa good ?s
Sandra Hines: On the syllabus it details the questions to address
Jayne Germany: I think they’re the same...
Jodie Ingram: good I read all that last week but it is gone from my memory
this morning. Got the printouts I am ready
Jayne Germany: they are different..but both are good starting points
Jodie Ingram: So do we just pick some one and start asking questions
Sandra Hines: now, we are supposed to discuss what we saw on the video?
Jayne Germany: Why don't I coach Jodie cuz I watched her video? S can jump
in
Jayne Germany: I think the whole experience
Sandra Hines: sounds great
Jodie Ingram: okay
Sandra Hines: what whole experience
Jayne Germany: whole mentoring experience, not just that one session on
video
Jodie Ingram: I agree
Conference 1—Jayne coaching Jodie
Jayne Germany: Jodie, How do you feel about your mentoring experience and
lesson plan development?
Jodie Ingram: I feel that I have come a long way. I watched my video again
and kept thinking. "I was leading her there and That should have been
a question" But I can tell this is going to be an ongoing process.
Jayne Germany: Did you meet more with her afterward?
Jodie Ingram: We did 4 phone conversations after the video
Jayne Germany: What was successful about those meetings?
Jodie Ingram: we were able to revisit holes that were left and nail down
all the answers. It was less indimiating for both of us since there was no
video
camera. It was impossible to forget it was there during the first meeting.
Jayne Germany: I agree about the video camera...I had great reservations...but
we eventually got used to it!
Jayne Germany: So you felt more natural in later meetings?
Jodie Ingram: It was just always in the back of our minds. We were much more
ourselves in later meetings. Just two colleagues working through a lesson
plan. No pressure
Jayne Germany: How has her thinking changed throughout this process?
Jodie Ingram: She is ready to explore more lesson with a technology piece.
She sees that I am not asking her to teach technology just add it to her
existing lessons.
Jayne Germany: Content over technology--that seems to be a common theme throughout
our experiences.
Jodie Ingram: It really is. Teachers have enough to teach the TEKS. I just
want to change the way they teach them.
Jayne Germany: You are right! How have Sandra, I and your classmates helped?
How can we help more?
Jodie Ingram: The role play was a great starter. It let me see what the session
would be like. I liked that. The SUPPORT was the biggest help through. Knowing
that there was team to talk to about problems was great for me. I can't think
of
Jodie Ingram: anything else you could have done
Jayne Germany: I agree--that first meeting was awkward, but it helped me
prep for my own session. And it feels much more natural between us now!
Jodie Ingram: ditto
Jayne Germany: Seeing faces and hearing voices via video helps...
Jodie Ingram: I know it was great to put faces with the disccussions
Jayne Germany: I know you mentioned changing the way you lead teachers...Is
there anything else you want to change for next session?
Sandra Hines: I agree with the faces and names.
Jodie Ingram: No. I really see that as my main challenge
Jayne Germany: Sandra--do you have any burning questions to ask Jodie?
Sandra Hines: no. I'm looking at the questions and getting ready for my turn.
:-)
Jayne Germany: Jodie--Did the teacher decide to infuse ppt or stick with
word?
Jodie Ingram: she is going to do both. We think that we can get the lab for
2 days that week if we ask early enough
Jayne Germany: I look forward to seeing your completed mttc webpage and lesson
plan! Good Job!
Jodie Ingram: thanks, who is next
Conference 2—Jodie coaching Sandra
Jodie Ingram: What are your feelings about your time with your mentee?
Sandra Hines: I feel that we developed a good trust between us. I also feel
that I need to be more careful to ask questions that cause her to reflect
and come up with her own answers. She has learned, through our work in math,
to
depend on my opinion and I need to wean her of that.
Jodie Ingram: I have that same issue.
Jodie Ingram: What could you do differently that would help wean her
Sandra Hines: It is hard when you think you know the best way to do something
or have more experience
Sandra Hines: perhaps always turn her questions into questions for her
Jayne Germany: I like the way you said "think" you know
Jodie Ingram: hehe
Sandra Hines: I don't want to come across as being a know it all
Jodie Ingram: How does this session differ from times in the past
Jayne Germany: exactly--it goes back to trust-building and having confidence
in them.
Sandra Hines: One problem with the relationship with the teacher I was working
with is SHE thinks I know it all. :-)
Sandra Hines: In the past, working with math, I was trying to teach her to
get away from the text book and go to more hands on, so I was teaching her.
Jodie Ingram: Now you are guiding her???
Sandra Hines: Now, we were working on a science lesson, where she was very
confident in the content but trying to add the technology
Sandra Hines: Yes, I was guiding her, but I want to help her think and come
to her own conclusions, based what we have already learned together.
Jodie Ingram: How do you feel about the order of her lesson she decided on?
I know yall were stuck there for a while on video.
Sandra Hines: I think we were stuck on the last part of the lesson, deciding
where the Inspiration would fit and how to prepare for it. I like the way
she decided to do it.
Sandra Hines: At first she didn't want to review, thinking that the students
would be cheating, but she came around to see that as just a normal review
with the KWL
Jodie Ingram: Good. What could we do differently.
Sandra Hines: we? my coaches?
Jodie Ingram: yes
Sandra Hines: You couldn't have because of the lack of technology and the
distance, but it would have been nice to videoconference and interact face
to face that
way or in person.
Jodie Ingram: What was your favorite part of this module
Sandra Hines: to be able to share documents and ask questions easier
Sandra Hines: finishing :-)
Jodie Ingram: not module .... experience
Jayne Germany: heehee
Sandra Hines: No really... I enjoyed working with the teacher
Jodie Ingram: you seemed to.
Jodie Ingram: Jayne, anything else????
Sandra Hines: thank you for your support
Jayne Germany: I don't think so...
Sandra Hines: okay, Jayne are you ready?
Jodie Ingram: Sandra, anything from your end to add
Jayne Germany: Sandra, do you want to say anything else?
Sandra Hines: no
Jayne Germany: okay!
Jodie Ingram: your turn
Sandra Hines: I've saved after each set
Jayne Germany: me too
Sandra Hines: great minds...
Conference 3—Sandra coaching Jayne
Sandra Hines: Jayne, how do you feel your experience with the cooperating
teacher went?
Jayne Germany: It went well--we met a total of 11 hours, working on this
lesson and getting her thru her level 1 tech comps. I realize the stress
is on content,
but this is a goal she really wanted to accomplish.
Jayne Germany: We both came out with a total feeling of accomplishment.
Sandra Hines: Are the level 1 tech comps for your district?
Jayne Germany: Yes--based on sbec standards.
Jayne Germany: word, ppt, internet/email/operating systems (file mgmt)
Sandra Hines: you wanted me to observe your questions and who answered.
How do you feel about the questions and answer in your session
Jayne Germany: I think I did better than I thought I would. Most questions
she answered, unless she asked them directly.
Jayne Germany: The clarifying question activity helped tremendously.
Sandra Hines: Yes, I noted that some of the questions you answered were
asked by her.
Sandra Hines: How do feel that you have grown in the area of mentoring
and coaching with regard to questioning
Jayne Germany: We answered some together, but that’s the nature of collaboration.
Jayne Germany: I think I am less willing to push my solution onto a teacher
who might not be ready.
Jayne Germany: But knowing when a little pushing is necessary.
Sandra Hines: what leads you to believe you have grown in this way?
Jayne Germany: We have to help them think outside the box.
Jayne Germany: Watching the way Claudia has grown. Last year she refused
to work with technology unless I was there in the room. Now she is psyched!
Jodie Ingram: cool
Sandra Hines: That is a funtime when you see the teachers/students come
around
Jayne Germany: Much more fun than the power trip we get from having someone
be totally dependent on us.
Sandra Hines: You said that you did better than you expected on the questions..
in what way do you want to improve now
Sandra Hines: I agree on the power trip
Sandra Hines: seeing them grow is better
Jayne Germany: I think just continuing to work on not pushing my ideas
on teachers when I am working with them during this next school year--putting
theory into
practice.
Sandra Hines: how will you work on this?
Sandra Hines: how will you know you have been successful?
Jayne Germany: I think I should keep a journal and reflect on how I have
worked with teachers. I tend to focus on their tech skills rather than
in content.
Changing that focus.
Sandra Hines: I've been thinking about going back to a journal again, as
well..
Jodie Ingram: me too
Sandra Hines: Remember your video and looking at my notes and after reading
cognitive coaching... was wondering what you thought about giving compliments
during a coaching session
Sandra Hines: you were quick to give them when you like something
Jayne Germany: I think it is vital. Thanks for the observation!
Sandra Hines: welcome.. do you think that the lack of a compliment can
suggest disapproval?
Jayne Germany: Showing teachers you value them is essential to trust.
Sandra Hines: I agree
Jayne Germany: Yes, sometimes. sometimes not.
Jayne Germany: What do you guys think?
Jayne Germany: That is a good question..
Sandra Hines: I was just thinking about Cognitive coaching book and it
said to be neutral..
Sandra Hines: that’s HARD
Jayne Germany: Hard to be when you are a stakeholder in the process....
Sandra Hines: that's HARD
Jodie Ingram: well cogn. coaching is non-judgemental, but cogn. coaching
is not always the right techn, for each teacher
Sandra Hines: correct. you don't have to use cognitive coachin.g
Jayne Germany: agreed
Sandra Hines: I've just been thinking about it lately and wondered what
you ladies thought
Sandra Hines: Jayne, is there something more that we could have or could
do to help you reach your goals.
Jodie Ingram: I think that each teacher has needs. Some need that support
Jayne Germany: I don't think so--you guys have been great--Sandra thanks
for watching my looonnngggg video!
Jayne Germany: I had no idea how long it had to be...
Sandra Hines: chuckle... you are welcome i could watch it at work..
Jayne Germany: Will we continue this relationship next course?
Jodie Ingram: I think so
Sandra Hines: I wondered that too, but don't know
Jayne Germany: I haven't looked ahead that closely..
Jayne Germany: I hope so...now we are comfy with each other!